You can dimple your tie

Pierce-Brosnan-Dimple

Pierce Brosnan usually dimples his ties.

Some people insist that a tie must always be tied with a dimple, but Bond shows that it is not always necessary. There are many advantages to putting a dimple in your tie. The dimple helps to neatly fit the wide blade of your tie neatly through a tight tie knot and it helps the tie arch out from the neck. The thicker and narrower the tie the more difficult it is to get a dimple in the tie.

Daniel-Craig-Dimple

Daniel Craig often dimples his ties, and he even gets a small dimple in his narrow Skyfall ties.

Without a dimple the tie will end up with a fold at one side or both sides of the knot, like in Connery’s example below. That’s how Connery’s ties usually are, and it goes well with the stylishly asymmetrical look of the four-in-hand knot. Ties as narrow as Connery’s (3 inches wide or less) are difficult to dimple.

Sean-Connery-Tie-Side-Fold

Connery’s tie has a fold at the side.

There’s no right or wrong to dimpling a tie. Pierce Brosnan and Daniel Craig are the Bonds who most often dimple their ties, but it’s not something they do consistently.

Roger-Moore-Dimple

One of the rare occasions Roger Moore has a dimple in his tie is in A View to a Kill, perhaps due to the extra formality of the occasion. Moore also wears his ties with a dimple a few times in Moonraker.

29 thoughts on “You can dimple your tie

  1. How about doing a piece on how to flare out the tie?
    I have never known how to do it. The best example of this would be when pierce brosnan is first introduced to the aston martin vanquish in the tunnel in Die another day.

  2. Matt, on the subject of ties, do you have any evidence that at least some of Moore’s ties may have been from Hermés? I say this because I have just bid for one over Ebay and the pattern is not at all dissimilar to the grey with red pattern one which he wears with the grey silk suit in “Live and Let Die”.

  3. Yes I can, and I certainly enjoy doing it !

    Nice video too, but I guess the flaring effect won’t last the whole day, unless there’s a collar pin, a tie clip or a properly fitting waistcoat to maintain the tie in the position wanted.
    About dimples, it also depends of the tie fabric ; a dimple on a knitted tie is certainly hard to achieve, and I don’t think it would look good.

  4. Great post!

    Personally, I believe in creating a dimple whenever I wear a tie. I find it prevents the knot from looking sloppy, & demonstrates a keen attention to detail (like showing shirt cuff beyond the jacket sleeve). However, I do agree that narrow ties are very difficult to dimple, as well as knit ties. I used to have a tie that was 2.5 inches wide, and it was impossible to get a dimple in it. Since then, I never buy ties narrower than 3 inches, and I find them easier to dimple.

    I’ve noticed that in Casino Royale, Craig didn’t dimple his knots, but he does so frequently in QoS and Skyfall. I wonder if he does them himself, or has someone else tie his ties for him.

    • Brandon,
      I have the feeling he tried to make dimples in Casino Royale (see the train scene tie and the meeting with Mathis scene tie), but wasn’t really familiar with them. So, it wasn’t really a success.
      And then by QOS he had had enough time to be familiar with it.

      He should have asked Brosnan when doing Casino Royale !

    • It’s incredibly unlikely that Craig would tie his own knots. Every film or TV show I’ve been on has had set costumers who adjust the performer’s costumes (such as tying a tie properly – you’d better believe the costumer on a Bond film would know how to do it). The bigger and more expensive the production – especially one that is star-driven – the less likely a star’s appearance is left to chance.

  5. Here’s a somewhat relevant story I read this afternoon. So as most know Sean Connery and Ian Fleming didn’t overly get along. Connery had a habit of tying his ties “4 in hand” and Fleming was a staunch windsor knot supporter. So on the set of “From Russia with Love” Fleming called out Connery on this and told him Bond should tie a windsor. Connery replied “when I buy a $40 tie, I tie it however the hell i want!” Fleming then took a pair of scissors and cut Connery’s tie in half and proceeded to give him a cravat. Connery quickly took the Cravat and tied it in a “4 in hand.”

    Relevant due to tie knots, but otherwise just an amusing story.

    • Doh that’s what 6 beers for lunch will do for you. You are very correct Matt.

    • Amusing indeed. Thansk for sharing. I don’t know the degree of veracity but it’s certainly a good thing that Connery started to use the four-in-hand knot in FRWL. With his slim lapel suits a Windsor would have looked way too big.
      That said, I quite appreciate his Windsor knots in Dr. No, paired with classic, medium width suit lapels.

  6. Ugh! I detest deliberately dimpled ties, and I’m sure that the effect is exactly what the literary Bond disliked about Windsor knots: It shows too much vanity, and is often the mark of a cad. Did you know that there’s actually a little doohickey that you can buy to make a perfect dimple in your tie? Ugh!

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    • Do you also dislike the square folded pocket square for the same reason?

      As Hardy Amies said, “A man should look as if he has bought his clothes with intelligence, put them on with care and then forgotten all about them.”

      In essence, we have to have some degree of fussiness lest we look like we didn’t give a shit at all. ;)

    • Exactly Jovan. There is vanity and vanity.

      And about the doohickey to make a perfect dimple, well it’s exactly the same thing than a pre-tied bowtie -or tie, it unfortunately exists… Here we are talking about dimples we make ourselves, as well as we would tie a bowtie ourselves. It’s the pleasure of having the fabric in our hands that’s vastly superior to the perfect symetry -too perfect and thus boring as well as immediatly making it spotted as pretied- of a pretied bowite or of a “predimpled” dimple !

    • For what it is worth, I agree that an obviously too carefully dimpled tie can look awful. A tie that happens to have a natural dimple, however, looks good.

      Some current style iGent bloggers appear to see the tie dimple as a requirement of being well dressed (along with only ever using a four-in-hand knot and, of course, a pocket square). It isn’t, however, and, for me, Connery’s tie is perfect example of how a tie that lacks a central dimple can look just as good.

      For me it is the slight irregularity of a tie dimple that makes it look good. One that looks as though agonized hours were spent perfecting a perfectly central dimple do look overly vain. One that appears to have occurred organically, add a degree of life and interest to the tie in the same way that a self-tied tie does over a pre-tied one.

  7. In his later films, Cary Grant had a wardrobe assistant whose sole duty was to maintain the dimple in his tie, as Grant thought it balanced out the dimple in his chin. That’s the myth, anyway. One of the tie websites (I think totieatie.com) offered a tip. You hold a finger in the knot as you do the final tighten and a dimple is created. Works for me. I think the tie’s lining also makes a difference. In other words, very little or no lining = no dimple or very short lived dimple.

    • In my experience, Flusser’s method works best. You pull down on the sides of the tie blade when finally forming the knot, letting a more natural looking dimple form in the centre.

  8. The dimples I think look too much affected are “double dimples” or even triple ones sometimes. But when they appear while you were just trying to make one, then I don’t mind.
    It’s still infinitely better to a tie worn with the collar opened…

    • I agree. The centre dimple serves a practical AND aesthetic function, which is to cinch the tie neatly and attractively, thus making it easier to knot and flare out nicely. There are some men who pull off the non-dimpled look just fine, but it takes more work to get right and/or their ties are often wider and more thickly interlined — the Duke of Windsor’s bespoke ties being a good example.

    • It’s interesting to note that most of basic rules that still make sense to us today -like only buttoning the top button of a 2-button jacket-, before being esthetical or elegance rules, are just practical rules indeed. I think it’s a good test to see if a so-called rule is really that important.

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